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alt.bible.errancy FAQ

SOME FAQ AND A STYLE GUIDE FOR NEWSGROUP ALT.BIBLE.ERRANCY

First compiled 9 May, 1999 by Viv| Last revised 7 November, 2004 | Contact: vivsmythe [AT] gmail.com

This is an introduction to alt.bible.errancy (moderated). Comments and corrections of fact are welcomed. This FAQ will be posted to the newsgroup approximately fortnightly. NB: The newsgroup is now sadly no longer active, although it still exists. This FAQ will remain here as a resource anyway (some/many links may now be obsolete).


Answers in this FAQ are meant to be as objectively factual as possible regarding the great diversity of theological opinion regarding the matter of the doctrine of biblical inerrancy. Some inerrantist readers have felt personally attacked by reading that there are vast numbers of pious Christians in the world who disagree with them as well as the expected disagreements from atheists. Such statements are not meant as attacks on anyone, they are merely descriptive statements of the way different groups of people believe different things.

  1. What is the purpose of the newsgroup alt.bible.errancy?
  2. Are there any conventions I should observe when posting to a.b.e.? (Netiquette, attributions, etc)
  3. Why is the newsgroup moderated?
  4. What is biblical inerrancy?
  5. Why discuss inerrancy?
  6. Why do some errantists claim that inerrancy threatens democracy?
  7. Do all Christian churches agree regarding inspiration and inerrancy?
  8. Many of the terms used here are new to me – what do they mean?
  9. How do errantists challenge inerrancy?
  10. Are all errantists atheists?

APPENDIX: a collection of links for further reading purposes.


Q1: What is the purpose of the newsgroup alt.bible.errancy?
A: To discuss, dissect, debate, defend and debunk (according to taste) a common Christian belief in biblical inerrancy.
Newsgroup Charter: alt.bible.errancy is a moderated (spam free) group dedicated to discuss topics relevant to the errancy of the Bible. Topics include infallibility, inspiration, contradictions, harmonisations, prophecies, archaeology and historicity of the Bible. Posts that are not relevant to errancy will not be accepted.

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Q2: Are there any conventions I should observe when posting to a.b.e.?
A: If you are new to newsgroups, you should subscribe to <news:news.announce.newusers>, which outlines how newsgroups work and what is netiquette. Basic adherence to netiquette is expected.

This group has a particular convention regarding attributions of quotations from previous posts in the thread and your own writing. Most newsreaders generate “>>>” showing how many propagations those words have had. This gets confusing very quickly in long posts with multiple contributors. Therefore we ask that you write the name of the contributor you are quoting before the quoted chunk and your name at the beginning of your reply, to enable others to follow the order of argument clearly.Lurk in the group for a while and you will see how attribution conventions are used by the regulars. It’s simple and increases the reading ease of others, please use it when you post.

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Q3: Why is the newsgroup moderated?
A: Several reasons.

  1. To keep debate fairly civilised.
  2. To keep debate on-topic. If you want to discuss God’s existence, take it to one of the religion or philosophy groups where ontological debate is welcome. If you want to debate evolution, take it to talk.origins. If you want to debate the credibility of miracles, take it to sci.skeptic. The moderator ensures that off-topic threads are not perpetuated to the detriment of on-topic debate.
  3. To minimise sermonising and spamming.

Because the group is moderated, it can take a while for articles to appear on the newsgroup. They have to be approved by the moderator before they are sent to the server. Please be patient.

The group is mirrored on the Internet at groups.com, and messages can be sent directly to the group via errancyn@softhome.net if they are not well propagated via Usenet servers.

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Q4: What is biblical inerrancy?
A: A radical[1] interpretation of the traditional Christian doctrine that the Bible is the Word of God. Simplistically, that as God is perfect, his Word is free from errors of any kind – and thus the Bible is the only necessary source of moral guidance.

Traditional Christian doctrine holds that Scripture is revealed by God to prophets (revelation), who are inspired, impelled and assisted by the Holy Spirit to record revelation accurately (inspiration) and that the Holy Spirit guides those who read the words of Scripture to understand the original revelation accurately (illumination).[2] The early Church (and most denominations today) held that implicit in revelation, inspiration and illumination is the authority and infallibility of the Bible – that it applies to all humans everywhere, for all time, and that it is trustworthy and cannot deceive.

“If we are perplexed by an apparent contradiction in Scripture it is not allowable to
say, “The author of this book is mistaken;” but either the manuscript is faulty
or the translator is wrong, or you have not understood.” -(St.) Augustine

In contrast, moderate Christian theologians believe in revelation (and perhaps illumination), but not infallible inspiration, and liberal Christian theologians believe that the Bible writers were merely humans with a “high degree of religious insight”. Near the turn of the century German theologian Adolf Harnack had this classic definition of Liberal theology: “Firstly, the Kingdom of God and its coming. Secondly, God the Father and the infinite value of the human soul. Thirdly, the higher righteousness and the commandment of love.” Atheists deny any religious validity to the Bible, and view it as merely an attempt to explain the history of the Jewish people in spiritual terms.

Inerrantists extend the doctrine of infallibility to state that the Bible is totally free of error of any kind (other than insignificant copyist errors). For fundamentalists, inerrancy is not restricted to moral and religious truth. It is applied to all statements of fact in the Bible, “scientific, historical, or geographical” (Dave Miller) and the possibility of allegory is denied.

Those who reject the label “fundamentalist” because of its current negative connotations (“biblically orthodox” is becoming a favoured term) are often more willing to accept allegory in the Old Testament, but affirm the inerrancy of the New Testament as literal history.

Inerrancy of sacred texts is not a belief confined to Christianity. This is a common fundamentalist stance particularly true within the conservative wings of the world’s major religions. Since the religious texts of various religions and denominations differ greatly from one another, only one of them (at most) can be truly inerrant. The rest must be false – at least to some degree.

1. ‘Radical’ here is used in the academic sense of “pertaining to the root of the matter” rather than in the modern tabloid sense of “an extremist view of which I disapprove and you should too.” [back]

2. “Illumination” is a particularly controversial doctrine. Those modern churches with a strong priestly hierarchy deny individual “illumination” and hold that only the Church can accurately interpret Scripture, whereas many non-hierarchical Christian groups, particularly the growing Pentecostal fundamentalists, hold strongly to individual “illumination” by the Holy Spirit. [back]

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Q5. Why discuss inerrancy?
A. Inerrancy is both theologically and politically controversial.
Theological challenges come from both Christian errantists (who believe that literalist absolutism misrepresents the nature of the Bible and its interpretation) and from the faithful of other religions (who deny the Christian claim to be the unique path to knowing God and divine salvation).

Also, as other religions also have their conservative wings who believe that their particular sacred texts are inerrant, a belief in strict inerrancy promotes intolerance between the faithful of other religions. This can lead to aggression, repression and at its worst armed conflict when exploited for political purposes.Thus errantists challenge inerrancy in an effort to promote religious tolerance and ecumenicalism, also social justice – much of the modern debate between Christians regarding inerrancy was crystallised during debates regarding the abolition of slavery in the 19th century.

Many skeptics argue that inerrancy is not only a theological view in a vacuum, it also has profound political implications. Because inerrancy is an extremely conservative theological position, it tends to go hand in hand with conservative/reactionary/retrogressive views on social policy (sexuality, gender equality, reproduction, ecological conservation, separation of Church and State, freedom of religious thought and practise, etc.), justified by appeals to the authority of passages in the Bible as the only guide to moral living for all time.

Thus in debating inerrancy, skeptics are challenging the philosophical base of the politically active conservative and fundamentalist Christians.Essay: Does Inerrancy ReallyMatter?

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Q6: Why do some errantists claim that inerrancy threatens democracy?
A: Some extremist inerrantists in the USA advocate overturning the Constitution, ending the separation between Church and State, and establishing a Christian theocracy.
This is definitely not a Christian majority view, but a vocal minority of the extremist Religious Right in the USA wish to set up a biblical state according to the laws of Moses and the teachings of Jesus, Peter and Paul – negating democratic citizenship rights for those who have not ‘repented’ and been ‘saved’ according to their particular view.

Thus, inerrancy as the paradigm supporting this movement towards theocracy threatens the democratic rights of moderates, liberals and non-believers, as well as believers of non-Christian religions or even believers in different denominations of Christianity (disagreement amongst Christians regarding the nature/interpretation of the Bible is so extreme that some fundamentalists regard devout liberal Christians as blasphemers, the OT punishment for which is death).

Such Christian extremists also exist outside the USA, but in smaller numbers with less political clout and are less likely to have formed a militia with a state-of-the-art arsenal. Various extremists of other religions who claim the inerrancy of their sacred texts (particularly Judaism and Islam) wish to establish theocracies in other democratic countries around the world, and very few of them rule out the use of force to achieve their goals. This scenario makes some people very nervous indeed.

Essay: Christian Reconstructionism, Dominion Theology and Theonomy

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Q7. Do all Christian Churches agree regarding inspiration and inerrancy?
A. No.
Inspiration is a central doctrine which is widely affirmed, but even the precise definition and extent of inspiration is controversial. Inerrancy is a corollary of inspiration and not all Christians agree regarding the extent of its application.Disagreements within Christianity about the extent of inspiration in Scripture come down to whether theologians believe that the writers of Scripture were:

  • a. dictating or transcribing the revelation of the Holy Spirit directly
  • b. the writers were using their own words (or perhaps assisted intellect) to communicate revelation from the Holy Spirit at the actual time of revelation
  • c. they wrote revelation down at some later time in their own words as they best remembered it, (perhaps with assistance from the Holy Spirit to ensure accuracy)
  • d. they were simply men with “a high degree of religious insight”.

Essays:
Differing Christian Interpretations of the Bible
The History of the Doctrine of Inspiration From the Ancient Church Through the Reformation

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Q8. Many of the terms used here are new to me. What do they mean?
A. A good summary by B.A.Robinson at www.religioustolerance.org

    There are a number ofadditional Christian terms that are often used in connection with “Inerrancy:”

  • Plenary” means that the Scriptures are sufficiently complete and adequate to communicate God’s will to mankind.
  • Infallible” means that the Bible passages “never deceive nor mislead.”
  • Authoritative” means that the Bible is “binding on all people” Everyone will eventually have to “give an account for how they lived in light of its teaching.”
  • Autograph copies” refer to the original, hand-written copies of the books of the Bible. It is important to remember that none of the original copies exist. We onlyhave access to copies of copies of copies of…..

There are many other terms which are used more narrowly in skeptical discussion circles than in the general community e.g. agnostic and atheist.

There are also terms such as Deist, pantheist, panentheist etc which are useful background knowledge. Bookmark The Skeptic’s Dictionary at http://skepdic.com/ as a handy reference for terms you haven’t previously encountered.

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Q9: How do errantists challenge inerrancy?
A: On several basic grounds –

  1. Source ambiguity
  2. Grammatical errors
  3. Intentional, biased translation errors
  4. Copying errors
  5. Symbolic vs Literal interpretation
  6. Multiple authorship vs traditional attribution to single author
  7. Multiple versions of various books of the canon
  8. Interpretation Conflicts
  9. Internal conflicts/contradictions
  10. Nature of truth – eternal or specific to time and place?

More detail on these challenges – ” Problems With Inerrancy

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Q10: Are all errantists atheists?
A: No.
Many moderate and liberal Christians are errantists. They believe in the truth of the essence of the biblical message rather than every single word of the book. Even many conservative Christians do not subscribe to the strict inerrancy doctrine. Many believers of other religionsobviously believe that the Bible is errant and that their own scriptures contain divine Truth.That said, many freethinkers (atheists, agnostics, Deists, skeptics, humanists) feel particularly threatened by the rise of politicised fundamentalist Christianity, so they often tend to be at the forefront of debate.

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APPENDIX: a collection of links for further reading purposes.


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